The previous ten is here.
1.Babe Ruth RF/LHP Yankees 1914-35
180
.319/.451/.715
68-50
OPS+206
ERA+122
MVPQ: 1917, 1932
Elite: 1916, 1928, 1930
Inner circle: 1919, 1920, 1921, 1923 (14 wins), 1924, 1926, 1927, 1931
PA: 10,600
IP: 1220
1.Babe Ruth RF/LHP Yankees 1914-35
180
.319/.451/.715
68-50
OPS+206
ERA+122
MVPQ: 1917, 1932
Elite: 1916, 1928, 1930
Inner circle: 1919, 1920, 1921, 1923 (14 wins), 1924, 1926, 1927, 1931
PA: 10,600
IP: 1220
2.Barry Bonds LF Giants/Pirates 1986-07
172.6
.307/.452/.636
OPS+ 181
MVPQ: 1991, 1995, 1997, 2000
Elite: 1990, 1998, 2003,
Inner circle: 1992, 1993, 1996, 2001, 2002, 2004
PA: 12,600
3.Willie Mays CF Giants 1951-73
149.95
.314/.400/.604
OPS+ 155
MVPQ: 1960, 1961, 1966
Elite: 1955, 1957,
Inner circle: 1954, 1958, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965
PA:12,500
.314/.400/.604
OPS+ 155
MVPQ: 1960, 1961, 1966
Elite: 1955, 1957,
Inner circle: 1954, 1958, 1962, 1963, 1964, 1965
PA:12,500
4.Walter Johnson RHP Senators 1907-27
145.15
394-204
ERA+ 147
MVPQ:1911
Elite: 1916, 1918, 1919
Inner circle: 1910, 1912, 1913, 1914, 1915
IP: 5900
5. Ty Cobb CF Tigers 1905-28
141.35
.357/.425/.592
OPS+168
MVPQ: 1912,
Elite: 1909, 1915,
Inner circle: 1910, 1911, 1917
PA: 13,060
6.Roger Clemens RHP 1984-07 Red Sox/Yankees
138.6
377-205
ERA+ 143
MVPQ: 1986, 1992
Elite: 1987
Inner circle: 1990, 1997
IP: 4900
7. Hank Aaron RF Braves 1954-76
135.5
.319/.392/.604
OPS+155
MVPQ= 1959, 1960, 1961, 1963, 1967
PA: 13,940
8.Cy Young RHP 1890-11 Spiders/Red Sox
133
383-232
ERA+138
MVPQ= 1892, 1893, 1895, 1902, 1904, 1908
Elite: 1901,
IP: 5500
9.Honus Wagner SS Pirates 1897-17
131.05
OPS+ 150
MVPQ:1901, 1903, 1904, 1909, 1912
Elite: 1905, 1906, 1907,
Inner circle: 1908
PA: 11,750
10.Stan Musial LF/RF/1B 1941-63 Cardinals
124.75
OPS+159
.330/.416/.592
MVPQ=1944, 1946, 1949
Elite:1943, 1951
Inner circle:1948
PA: 12,700
And so it ends. The top ten leaves catcher (Bench, Piazza on the first team; Dickey and Carter on the second) first base (Gehrig, Pujols on the first team; Brouthers and Connor on the second) and second base (Hornsby, Lajoie on the first team, Collins, Morgan on the second).
ARod is never going to catch Wagner; he solidly remains the best SS who ever lived; everyone else moves down; Vaughan and Ripken on the second team. Third base stays the same - Schmidt and Mathews on the first team; Boggs and Chipper on the second.
Bonds and his 13 MVPQ seasons is solidly the best LF who ever lived. Williams is his backup; Musial and Henderson are on the second team. Mays and Cobb are the new center fielders, that bumps Mantle/Speaker to the second team (and DiMaggio off either squad which is madness) Ruth and Aaron to the first team in right; Ott/Robinson now to the second team.
The arms in this section are Johnson/Clemens/Young in that order - and I think they're the 3 best pitchers who ever lived.
So, two active players on the all time 25 man roster, and Pujols has a chance to be the best first baseman who ever lived by the end of his career. Piazza's bat makes him maybe a surprise result as the second best catcher of all time. Four pitchers of recent vintage in the all time top 9: Clemens, Maddux, Pedro, Unit.
Gary Carter's the backup on the B squad, making him the best baseball player of all time I ever met; Chipper has now passed Brett to be the 4th best third baseman of all time. Rivera's the active player on the B team, his limited use coupled with total dominance in that use makes him the most difficult rank. Dropping Newhouser and going with only 8 pitchers in order to add DiMaggio would just make things too easy on all of us.
1B Gehrig
Pujols
C Dickey
Carter
1B Brouthers
Connor
2B Collins
Morgan
LF Musial
Henderson
CF Mantle
Speaker
RF Ott
Robinson
124.75
OPS+159
.330/.416/.592
MVPQ=1944, 1946, 1949
Elite:1943, 1951
Inner circle:1948
PA: 12,700
And so it ends. The top ten leaves catcher (Bench, Piazza on the first team; Dickey and Carter on the second) first base (Gehrig, Pujols on the first team; Brouthers and Connor on the second) and second base (Hornsby, Lajoie on the first team, Collins, Morgan on the second).
ARod is never going to catch Wagner; he solidly remains the best SS who ever lived; everyone else moves down; Vaughan and Ripken on the second team. Third base stays the same - Schmidt and Mathews on the first team; Boggs and Chipper on the second.
Bonds and his 13 MVPQ seasons is solidly the best LF who ever lived. Williams is his backup; Musial and Henderson are on the second team. Mays and Cobb are the new center fielders, that bumps Mantle/Speaker to the second team (and DiMaggio off either squad which is madness) Ruth and Aaron to the first team in right; Ott/Robinson now to the second team.
The arms in this section are Johnson/Clemens/Young in that order - and I think they're the 3 best pitchers who ever lived.
So, two active players on the all time 25 man roster, and Pujols has a chance to be the best first baseman who ever lived by the end of his career. Piazza's bat makes him maybe a surprise result as the second best catcher of all time. Four pitchers of recent vintage in the all time top 9: Clemens, Maddux, Pedro, Unit.
Gary Carter's the backup on the B squad, making him the best baseball player of all time I ever met; Chipper has now passed Brett to be the 4th best third baseman of all time. Rivera's the active player on the B team, his limited use coupled with total dominance in that use makes him the most difficult rank. Dropping Newhouser and going with only 8 pitchers in order to add DiMaggio would just make things too easy on all of us.
Team One
C Bench
Piazza
Piazza
1B Gehrig
Pujols
2B Hornsby
Lajoie
Lajoie
SS Wagner
Rodriguez
Rodriguez
3B Schmidt
Mathews
Mathews
LF Bonds
Williams
Williams
CF Mays
Cobb
Cobb
RF Ruth
Aaron
Aaron
P W Johnson
Clemens
Young
Alexander
Maddux
Martinez
Grove(L)
Mathewson
Johnson (L)
Clemens
Young
Alexander
Maddux
Martinez
Grove(L)
Mathewson
Johnson (L)
Team 2
C Dickey
Carter
1B Brouthers
Connor
2B Collins
Morgan
SS Vaughan
Ripken
3B Boggs
Jones
Ripken
3B Boggs
Jones
LF Musial
Henderson
CF Mantle
Speaker
RF Ott
Robinson
P
Gibson
Walsh
Rivera
Nichols
Seaver
Spahn(L)
Hubbell (L)
Clarkson
Newhouser (L)
Gibson
Walsh
Rivera
Nichols
Seaver
Spahn(L)
Hubbell (L)
Clarkson
Newhouser (L)
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