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111. Billy Hamilton 1888-1901 OF Phillies/Beaneaters
66.2
OPS+141
.319/.437/.463
MVPQ=1894
PA=7600
112. Carlton Fisk C Red Sox/White Sox 1969-93
65.8
OPS+117
.261/.339/.473
MVPQ=none
PA=9850
113. Roy Halladay RHP 1998- Blue Jays
65.75
ERA+138
193-121
MVPQ=none
IP=2500
114. Joe Cronin SS 1926-45 Red Sox/Senators
65.55
OPS+119
.281/.365/.467
Elite=1930
PA=8800
115. Larry Walker 1989-05 RF Rockies/Expos
65.4
OPS+140
.293/.384/.533
MVPQ=none
PA=8000
116. Yogi Berra C Yankees 1946-65
65.3
OPS+125
.286/.343/.514
MVPQ=none
PA=8350
117. Mark McGwire 1B Athletics/Cardinals 1986-01
64.9
OPS+162
.270/.399/.618
MVPQ=1998
PA=7650
118. Tim Keefe 1880-93 RHP Giants
64.85
ERA+127
185-124
Inner Circle=1883
IP=5050
119. Bob Caruthers 1884-93 RHP/RF
64.55
ERA+123
OPS+133
102-81
.269/.383/.433
MVPQ=1888
Elite=1889
Inner Circle=1886, 1887
IP=2800
PA=2900
120. Juan Marichal RHP Giants 1960-75
64.45
ERA+123
216-154
MVPQ=1963
Elite=1965, 1966
IP=3500
The current all time subjective pitching staff will get shaken up following this section. Let's start with Hamilton and his all time adjusted OPB of nearly .440; he's the new starting CF.
Fisk and Berra are both in this section; Piazza and Dickey are the current catchers on the roster. Berra's bat puts him over Fisk and into contention, but I'll stick with Piazza and Dickey; they both had better bats, accumulated value in fewer plate appearances, and better top end seasons.
Cronin and Boudreau are really, really comparable - Boudreau's career was accumulated in significantly fewer plate appearances, so that's not going to change either.
Walker's bat compares favorably to Medwick, currently the backup RF - but Ducky's top end keeps the job.
McGwire and Greenberg are essentially the same player; McGwire's total value gets him the nod.
Now to the pitchers. Let's rank this group in this order: Halladay, Marichal, Caruthers, Keefe. Doc doesn't have the top end of any of the other guys, but is the best per inning pitched, Caruthers is the best two way player ever not named George Herman, Marichal and Keefe both hit you with big top ends. Halladay/Marichal are going to slide into the all time rotation after Newhouser. If Halladay's 2012 matches his 2011, he'd be just outside the Top 75. Keefe's not going to make it; Caruthers is going to be the 25th man on this team for as long as I can keep him there.
C Piazza
Dickey
1B McGwire
Greenberg
2B Robinson
Gordon
SS Banks
Boudreau
3B Allen
LF Jackson
Flick
CF Hamilton
Smith
RF Heilmann
Medwick
P Walsh
Rivera
111. Billy Hamilton 1888-1901 OF Phillies/Beaneaters
66.2
OPS+141
.319/.437/.463
MVPQ=1894
PA=7600
112. Carlton Fisk C Red Sox/White Sox 1969-93
65.8
OPS+117
.261/.339/.473
MVPQ=none
PA=9850
113. Roy Halladay RHP 1998- Blue Jays
65.75
ERA+138
193-121
MVPQ=none
IP=2500
114. Joe Cronin SS 1926-45 Red Sox/Senators
65.55
OPS+119
.281/.365/.467
Elite=1930
PA=8800
115. Larry Walker 1989-05 RF Rockies/Expos
65.4
OPS+140
.293/.384/.533
MVPQ=none
PA=8000
116. Yogi Berra C Yankees 1946-65
65.3
OPS+125
.286/.343/.514
MVPQ=none
PA=8350
117. Mark McGwire 1B Athletics/Cardinals 1986-01
64.9
OPS+162
.270/.399/.618
MVPQ=1998
PA=7650
118. Tim Keefe 1880-93 RHP Giants
64.85
ERA+127
185-124
Inner Circle=1883
IP=5050
119. Bob Caruthers 1884-93 RHP/RF
64.55
ERA+123
OPS+133
102-81
.269/.383/.433
MVPQ=1888
Elite=1889
Inner Circle=1886, 1887
IP=2800
PA=2900
120. Juan Marichal RHP Giants 1960-75
64.45
ERA+123
216-154
MVPQ=1963
Elite=1965, 1966
IP=3500
The current all time subjective pitching staff will get shaken up following this section. Let's start with Hamilton and his all time adjusted OPB of nearly .440; he's the new starting CF.
Fisk and Berra are both in this section; Piazza and Dickey are the current catchers on the roster. Berra's bat puts him over Fisk and into contention, but I'll stick with Piazza and Dickey; they both had better bats, accumulated value in fewer plate appearances, and better top end seasons.
Cronin and Boudreau are really, really comparable - Boudreau's career was accumulated in significantly fewer plate appearances, so that's not going to change either.
Walker's bat compares favorably to Medwick, currently the backup RF - but Ducky's top end keeps the job.
McGwire and Greenberg are essentially the same player; McGwire's total value gets him the nod.
Now to the pitchers. Let's rank this group in this order: Halladay, Marichal, Caruthers, Keefe. Doc doesn't have the top end of any of the other guys, but is the best per inning pitched, Caruthers is the best two way player ever not named George Herman, Marichal and Keefe both hit you with big top ends. Halladay/Marichal are going to slide into the all time rotation after Newhouser. If Halladay's 2012 matches his 2011, he'd be just outside the Top 75. Keefe's not going to make it; Caruthers is going to be the 25th man on this team for as long as I can keep him there.
C Piazza
Dickey
1B McGwire
Greenberg
2B Robinson
Gordon
SS Banks
Boudreau
3B Allen
LF Jackson
Flick
CF Hamilton
Smith
RF Heilmann
Medwick
P Walsh
Rivera
Newhouser (LHP)
Halladay
Marichal
Ford
Rusie
Vance
Utility: Caruthers
We still need a backup third baseman, maybe we'll get one before we are halfway through the list. And I'm down to 8 pitchers, I'm likely to carry one more. That would be 26 as opposed to 25, we'll see how that turns out.
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