The 150 Best Players in NFL History, Finale

Part 15 is here.

Only 20 to go – Jim Brown has a sizeable lead, will he hold on and finish as the top player ever?

Approximate Value, games, value/game are the numbers.

20. Paul Krause 181 226 .801, between Chuck Bednarik and Bob Lilly, currently #9 overall, Eddie Meador is gone.

19. Bruce Matthews 182 296 .615, between Emmitt Smith and Ronnie Lott, currently #28 overall, Jim Tyrer is gone

18. Lawrence Taylor 182 184 .989, between Andy Robustelli and Tom Brady, currently #4 overall, Richie Petitbon is gone

17. Junior Seau 185 268 .690, between Doug Atkins and Drew Brees, currently #15 overall, another Charger, Antonio Gates, gets bounced

16. Merlin Olsen 185 208 .889, between Tom Brady and Anthony Munoz, currently #6 overall, knocks off Lenny Moore

15. Jim Marshall 188 282 .667, between Walter Payton and Doug Atkins, currently #15 overall, knocks off Ken Riley

14. Derrick Brooks 190 224 .848, between Tom Brady and Merlin Olsen, currently #6 overall, knocks Art Shell off the list

13. Rod Woodson 193 238 .811, between Derrick Brooks and Merlin Olsen, currently #7 overall, knocks off Bart Starr. 

12. Carl Eller 195 225 .867, between Bill George and Andy Robustelli, currently #3 overall, knocks off Isaac Bruce

11. John Elway 203 234 .867, behind only Jim Brown.  Charles Woodson gets bounced.

10. Johnny Unitas 206 211 .976, he goes in right ahead of Elway as the new number two. Darrell Green is off the list

9. Bruce Smith 216 279 .774, goes in third, ahead of Elway, Aeneas Williams is off.

8. Alan Page 216 218 .991, new number two, Gary Zimmerman is off

7. Dan Marino 216 242 .893, new number three, knocks off Brian Dawkins

6. Ray Lewis 222 228 .974, new number two.  James Lofton is gone

5. Reggie White 222 232 .957, new number three. Mike Kenn is off the list

4. Peyton Manning 235 224 .1049, guess who just passed Jim Brown?  Mike Webster’s off the list

3. Fran Tarkenton 240 246 .976, new number two. Tim Brown is bounced.

2. Jerry Rice 250 303 .825, new number three. Randall McDaniel is out.

1. Brett Favre 254 302 .841, new number two. Don Maynard’s gone.

And we’re done.  240 players analyzed – it’s only a regular season analysis; if you say this underrates post season and further underrates Super Bowl, giving excessive weight say, to Takenton where it helps him and depressing the places where it hurts – that’s a fair observation.

But when it comes to regular season football – I’m willing to sign my name to the following list.

1.       Peyton Manning

2.       Brett Favre

3.       Fran Tarkenton

4.       Jerry Rice

5.       Jim Brown

6.       Ray Lewis

7.       Reggie White

8.       Alan Page

9.       Dan Marino

10.   Johnny Unitas

11.   Bruce Smith

12.   John Elway

13.   Bill George

14.   Carl Eller

15.   Andy Robustelli

16.   Lawrence Taylor

17.   Tom Brady

18.   Derrick Brooks

19.   Rod Woodson

20.   Merlin Olsen

21.   Anthony Munoz

22.   Steve Young

23.   Jack Ham

24.   Chuck Bednarik

25.   Paul Krause

26.   Bob Lilly

27.   Marshall Faulk

28.   Walter Payton

29.   Jim Marshall

30.   Doug Atkins

31.   Junior Seau

32.   Drew Brees

33.   Mean Joe Greene

34.   Dan Fouts

35.   Barry Sanders

36.   Joe Montana

37.   Joe Schmidt

38.   Mike Singletary

39.   Gino Marchetti

40.   LaDainian Tomlinson

41.   Ted Hendricks

42.   Warren Moon

43.   Marvin Harrison

44.   Ken Anderson

45.   Emmitt Smith

46.   Bruce Matthews

47.   Ronnie Lott

48.   Jack Lambert

49.   Leo Nomellini

50.   Tony Gonzalez

51.   Terrell Owens

52.   Jack Youngblood

53.   Emlen Tunnell

54.   Nick Buoniconti

55.   Ernie Stautner

56.   Jim Ringo

57.   Bobby Bell

58.   Brian Urlacher

59.   Randy Moss

60.   Herb Adderly

61.   Michael Strahan

62.   Lem Barney

63.   Yale Lary

64.   Isiah Robertson

65.   Alex Karras

66.   Zach Thomas

67.   Julius Peppers

68.   Jimmy Johnson

69.   Willie Davis

70.   Rickey Jackson

71.   Norm Van Brocklin

72.   Willie Brown

73.   Chris Hanburger

74.   Edgerrin James

75.   Larry Grantham

76.   Randy White

77.   Deion Sanders

78.   Sam Huff

79.   Ron Yary

80.   Henry Jordan

81.   Champ Bailey

82.   Johnny Robinson

83.   Night Train Lane

84.   Warren Sapp

85.   Roger Staubach

86.   Rosey Brown

87.   Bob Griese

88.   Ray Nitschke

89.   Paul Warfield

90.   Chuck Howley

91.   Donovan McNabb

92.   Mel Blount

93.   Mel Renfro

94.   Jason Taylor

95.   Ronde Barber

96.   Chris Doleman

97.   Terry Bradshaw

98.   Bobby Boyd

99.   Dick Butkus

100.                        Ed Reed

101.                        Randall Cunningham

102.                        Raymond Berry

103.                        Tony Dorsett

104.                        Reggie Wayne

105.                        Jim Otto

106.                        Jim Taylor

107.                        Len Dawson

108.                        Gene Upshaw

109.                        Ron McDole

110.                        Mike Haynes

111.                        Bobby Layne

112.                        Buck Buchanan

113.                        Ricky Watters

114.                        Franco Harris

115.                        Jim Kelly

116.                        Thurman Thomas

117.                        John Hannah

118.                        Willie Wood

119.                        Lee Roy Jordan

120.                        Maxie Baughan

121.                        Derrick Thomas

122.                        Michael Irvin

123.                        Willie Lanier

124.                        Steve Largent

125.                        Sonny Jurgensen

126.                        Ken Houston

127.                        John Hadl

128.                        John Brodie

129.                        Mick Tingelhoff

130.                        Drew Bledsoe

131.                        Deacon Jones

132.                        Boomer Esiason

133.                        Jim Parker

134.                        Bill Bergey

135.                        Dan Hampton

136.                        Marcus Allen

137.                        Cornell Green

138.                        Joe Fortunato

139.                        Lance Alworth

140.                        YA Tittle

141.                        Steve McNair

142.                        Curtis Martin

143.                        Russ Washington

144.                        Jim Hart

145.                        Lemar Parrish

146.                        Vinny Testaverde

147.                        Dave Krieg

148.                        Willie Roaf

149.                        Roman Gabriel

150.                        Charley Taylor

Top 100 NFL Players of 2013 #40-31

50-41 is here.


NFL Net List

40. N.Suh DT Detroit (look below)
39. R.White WR Atlanta (already appeared on my list)
38. V.Davis TE San Francisco (not on my list, sorry VD)
37. N.Bowman ILB San Francisco (look below)
36. G.Atkins DT Cincinnati (still to come)
35. D.Bryant WR Dallas (already appeared)
34. C.Tillman CB Chicago (already appeared)
33. P.Peterson CB Arizona (still to come)
32. F.Gore RB San Francisco (already appeared)
31. C.Matthews OLB GBay (still to come)

My List
40. N.Bowman ILB San Francisco
39. D.Johnson ILB KC
38. M.Roos T Tenn
37. J.Charles RB KC
36. B.Roethlisberger QB Pitt
35. B.Marshall WR Chi
34. R.Sherman CB Sea
33. D.Ware DE Dall
32. NSuh DT Det
31. H.Ngata DT Balt

The 150 Best Players in NFL History, Part 15

Part 14 is here.

30 left.  30!  Approximate value, games, value/game are the numbers.

30. Emmitt Smith 169 226 .748, between Ken Anderson and Ronnie Lott, #18 overall, knocks, coincidentally, Aikman right off the list.

29. Doug Atkins 171 205 .834, between Walter Payton and Drew Brees, #5 overall, knocks Dave Robinson off the list

28. Steve Young 171 169 1.012, only 27 left, and we have a new number one. Torry Holt gets bounced

27. Tony Gonzalez 172 254 .677,  between Leo Nomellini and Terrell Owens, #24 overall, Harry Carson is off the list

26. Bob Lilly 172 196 .878, between Bednarik and Faulk, #4 overall, Jack Pardee is out

25. Anthony Munoz 177 185 .957, only 24 left, and we have a new number one.  Larry Little is gone.

24. Tom Brady 178 177 1.006, only 23 left and we have a new number one.  Sam Mills is out

23. Jim Brown 179 118 1.517, Brown runs, just runs away with it.  Tiki Barber’s out

22. Bill George 179 173 1.035, new number two – Rich Gannon’s out

21. Andy Robustelli 179 175 1.023, new number three – Shannon Sharpe is out.

A heavy reworking of the top of the list with just 20 to go.  Here’s where we sit.

1.       Jim Brown

2.       Bill George

3.       Andy Robustelli

4.       Tom Brady

5.       Anthony Munoz

6.       Steve Young

7.       Jack Ham

8.       Chuck Bednarik

9.       Bob Lilly

10.   Marshall Faulk

11.   Walter Payton

12.   Doug Atkins

13.   Drew Brees

14.   Mean Joe Greene

15.   Dan Fouts

16.   Barry Sanders

17.   Joe Montana

18.   Joe Schmidt

19.   Mike Singletary

20.   Gino Marchetti

21.   LaDainian Tomlinson

22.   Ted Hendricks

23.   Warren Moon

24.   Marvin Harrison

25.   Ken Anderson

26.   Emmitt Smith

27.   Ronnie Lott

28.   Jack Lambert

29.   Leo Nomellini

30.   Tony Gonzalez

31.   Terrell Owens

32.   Jack Youngblood

33.   Emlen Tunnell

34.   Nick Buoniconti

35.   Ernie Stautner

36.   Jim Ringo

37.   Bobby Bell

38.   Brian Urlacher

39.   Randy Moss

40.   Herb Adderly

41.   Michael Strahan

42.   Lem Barney

43.   Yale Lary

44.   Isiah Robertson

45.   Alex Karras

46.   Zach Thomas

47.   Julius Peppers

48.   Jimmy Johnson

49.   Willie Davis

50.   Rickey Jackson

51.   Norm Van Brocklin

52.   Willie Brown

53.   Chris Hanburger

54.   Edgerrin James

55.   Larry Grantham

56.   Randy White

57.   Deion Sanders

58.   Sam Huff

59.   Ron Yary

60.   Henry Jordan

61.   Champ Bailey

62.   Johnny Robinson

63.   Night Train Lane

64.   Warren Sapp

65.   Roger Staubach

66.   Rosey Brown

67.   Bob Griese

68.   Ray Nitschke

69.   Paul Warfield

70.   Chuck Howley

71.   Donovan McNabb

72.   Mel Blount

73.   Mel Renfro

74.   Jason Taylor

75.   Ronde Barber

76.   Chris Doleman

77.   Terry Bradshaw

78.   Bobby Boyd

79.   Dick Butkus

80.   Ed Reed

81.   Randall Cunningham

82.   Raymond Berry

83.   Tony Dorsett

84.   Reggie Wayne

85.   Jim Otto

86.   Jim Taylor

87.   Len Dawson

88.   Gene Upshaw

89.   Ron McDole

90.   Mike Haynes

91.   Bobby Layne

92.   Buck Buchanan

93.   Ricky Watters

94.   Franco Harris

95.   Jim Kelly

96.   Thurman Thomas

97.   John Hannah

98.   Willie Wood

99.   Lee Roy Jordan

100.                        Maxie Baughan

101.                        Derrick Thomas

102.                        Michael Irvin

103.                        Willie Lanier

104.                        Steve Largent

105.                        Sonny Jurgensen

106.                        Ken Houston

107.                        John Hadl

108.                        John Brodie

109.                        Mick Tingelhoff

110.                        Drew Bledsoe

111.                        Deacon Jones

112.                        Boomer Esiason

113.                        Jim Parker

114.                        Bill Bergey

115.                        Dan Hampton

116.                        Marcus Allen

117.                        Cornell Green

118.                        Joe Fortunato

119.                        Lance Alworth

120.                        YA Tittle

121.                        Steve McNair

122.                        Curtis Martin

123.                        Russ Washington

124.                        Jim Hart

125.                        Lemar Parrish

126.                        Vinny Testaverde

127.                        Dave Krieg

128.                        Willie Roaf

129.                        Roman Gabriel

130.                        Charley Taylor

131.                        Don Maynard

132.                        Randall McDaniel

133.                        Tim Brown

134.                        Mike Webster

135.                        Mike Kenn

136.                        James Lofton

137.                        Brian Dawkins

138.                        Gary Zimmerman

139.                        Aeneas Williams

140.                        Darrell Green

141.                        Charles Woodson

142.                        Isaac Bruce

143.                        Bart Starr

144.                        Art Shell

145.                        Ken Riley

146.                        Lenny Moore

147.                        Antonio Gates

148.                        Richie Petitbon

149.                        Jim Tyrer

150.                        Eddie Meador

 

 

 

 

2013 MLB:60 Games In

We're 60 games into the MLB season.

Here's the current updated postseason predictions:

AL
East
NYY 89

Central
Detroit 92

West
Texas 91

WC1
Boston 89

WC2
Oakland 88

NL
Atlanta 92

Central
St Louis 93

West
San Francisco 87

WC1
Cincinnati 91

WC2
Arizona 87

Here's my current selection for All Star Game Rosters.  I'll do it again at the 80 game mark.

Each league has 34 players.  There have to be at least 5 starters/3 relievers for each league.  Each league had 13 active pitchers last year, so I'll make that my target; I still wouldn't ever have an all star roster with more than 3 relievers.  We'd need 40 players a side before I'd do that. Both leagues use a DH.  Every team needs to be represented.

The WAR is B-Ref+Davenport.

AL
C J. Mauer Min 2.5
C C. Santana Cle 1.6
C J.Castro Hou 1.1
1B C. Davis Bal 3.3
1B J.Loney TB 2.1
1B NSwisher Cle 1.9
2B D.Pedroia Bos 3
2B I.Kinsler Tex 1.7
SS J.Peralta Det 2.3
SS J.Lowrie Oak 1.9
3B M.Machado Balt 3.3
3B M.Cabrera Det 2.9 (DH)
3B E.Longoria TB 2.6
3B J.Donaldson Oak 2.4
LF A.Gordon KC 1.8
CF M.Trout LAA 2.1
RF A.Rios CWS 1.8
OF K.Johnson Tor 1.7
OF C.Crisp Oak 1.9
OF N.McLouth Balt 1.6
DH K.Morales LAA 1.7

P C.Buchholz Bos 3.3
P H.Iwakuma Sea 3
P F.Hernandez Sea 2.7
P A.Sanchez Det 2.5
P H.Kuroda NYY 2.5
P C.Sale CWS 2.4
P Y.Darvish Tex 2.3
P A.Cobb TB 2.3
P M.Moore TB 2.2
P J.Shields KC 2

RP M.Rivera NYY 1.5
RP J.Nathan Tex 1.5
RP T.Wilhelmsen Sea 1.4

NL
C Y.Molina StL 2.5
C R.Martin LAD 2.2
C B.Posey SFG 2.1
1B P.Goldschmidt Ari 3.5
1B J.Votto Cin 3.1
2B M.Carpenter StL 2.8
2B B.Phillips Cin 2.3
SS T.Tulowitzki Col 3.1
SS E. Cabrera SD 3
SS J.Segura Mil 2.8
3B D.Wright NYM 2.5
3B C.Headley SD 1.7
LF C.Gonzalez Col 2.6
CF C.Gomez Mil 3.2
RF H.Pence SFG 2.8
OF G.Parra Ari 2.6
OF SS Choo 2.3
OF R.Braun Mil 2.2 (DH)
OF A.McCutcheon Pit 2.2
OF J.Upton Atl 2.1
OF S.Marte Pit 1.8

P C.Kershaw LAD 3.7
P C.Lee 3.2
P P.Corbin Ari 3.2
P M.Harvey NYM 3.1
P A.Wainwright StL 2.9
P J.Zimmerman Was 2.8
P S.Miller StL 2.6
P T.Wood Chi 2.4
P L.Lynn StL 2.2
P R.Nolasco Mia 1.1

RP J.Grilli 1.9 Pit
RP J.Henderson Mil 1.7
RP E.Mujica StL 1.5